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		<title>By: secondlifeshrink</title>
		<link>http://secondlifeshrink.com/2008/12/26/a-hard-rains-a-gonna-fall/#comment-304</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In response to Sigmund&#039;s points: the article he links to is about the failure rate of RL businesses - run by business people rather than amateurs - when they try to expand into SL, and, as he says, it&#039;s about 90%. Furthermore the 10% who &quot;succeed&quot; do so in terms of achieving marketing or recruitment goals for their offline activities, rather than building an actual profitable business in SL itself.

I&#039;m still not convinced that it is possible for any more than a tiny number of people to make serious money purely from in-world commerce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Sigmund&#8217;s points: the article he links to is about the failure rate of RL businesses &#8211; run by business people rather than amateurs &#8211; when they try to expand into SL, and, as he says, it&#8217;s about 90%. Furthermore the 10% who &#8220;succeed&#8221; do so in terms of achieving marketing or recruitment goals for their offline activities, rather than building an actual profitable business in SL itself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not convinced that it is possible for any more than a tiny number of people to make serious money purely from in-world commerce.</p>
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		<title>By: secondlifeshrink</title>
		<link>http://secondlifeshrink.com/2008/12/26/a-hard-rains-a-gonna-fall/#comment-303</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 00:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess that I&#039;m coming at this from a psychological viewpoint rather than a strictly economic one. There is a recession, people are worried about losing their jobs, houses and healthcare, and they are cutting back on their discretionary spending. Spending doesn&#039;t get much more discretionary than buying virtual products from virtual shops in &lt;em&gt;Second Life&lt;/em&gt;, especially when you consider than a resident can get a perfectly adequate SL experience without spending any L$ at all. All the signs are telling me that the SL economy is going to contract rather than expand.

It was never that big to start with anyway. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://secondlife.com/whatis/economy_stats.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SL economic statistics&lt;/a&gt; do show a lot of transactions going on , but the vast majority of them are US$2 or less in value - in November only 304 sales topped US$2000. The quarterly figure of US$100 million in transactions sounds impressive, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://walmartstores.com/download/2230.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wal-Mart manages that in only 3 hours&lt;/a&gt;, and turnover is not the same as profit - just ask the management at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/27/woolworths-stores-close&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Woolworths&lt;/a&gt;.

Only 181 residents took home more than $5000 last month, out of an active population of close on a million, and out of that five grand they had to pay their Linden Lab charges, so the number of residents actually earning anything close to a comfortable living from &lt;em&gt;Second Life&lt;/em&gt; commerce can&#039;t be more than a handful.

I think that there is a space for &lt;em&gt;Second Life&lt;/em&gt;, but as an entertainment service rather than as a place where money can be made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that I&#8217;m coming at this from a psychological viewpoint rather than a strictly economic one. There is a recession, people are worried about losing their jobs, houses and healthcare, and they are cutting back on their discretionary spending. Spending doesn&#8217;t get much more discretionary than buying virtual products from virtual shops in <em>Second Life</em>, especially when you consider than a resident can get a perfectly adequate SL experience without spending any L$ at all. All the signs are telling me that the SL economy is going to contract rather than expand.</p>
<p>It was never that big to start with anyway. The <a href="http://secondlife.com/whatis/economy_stats.php" rel="nofollow">SL economic statistics</a> do show a lot of transactions going on , but the vast majority of them are US$2 or less in value &#8211; in November only 304 sales topped US$2000. The quarterly figure of US$100 million in transactions sounds impressive, but <a href="http://walmartstores.com/download/2230.pdf" rel="nofollow">Wal-Mart manages that in only 3 hours</a>, and turnover is not the same as profit &#8211; just ask the management at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/27/woolworths-stores-close" rel="nofollow">Woolworths</a>.</p>
<p>Only 181 residents took home more than $5000 last month, out of an active population of close on a million, and out of that five grand they had to pay their Linden Lab charges, so the number of residents actually earning anything close to a comfortable living from <em>Second Life</em> commerce can&#8217;t be more than a handful.</p>
<p>I think that there is a space for <em>Second Life</em>, but as an entertainment service rather than as a place where money can be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Sigmund Leominster</title>
		<link>http://secondlifeshrink.com/2008/12/26/a-hard-rains-a-gonna-fall/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sigmund Leominster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the virtual world, about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slentre.com/second-life-business-only-10-of-real-life-businesses-succeed-in-second-life/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;90% of businesses fail&lt;/a&gt; as a matter of course. Remember, many of the people who join Second Life (or other virtual worlds) are not business people but want to &quot;give it a try&quot; and starting one in SL is pretty low cost. So it is unsurprising that you hear about &quot;businesses closing in droves&quot; because that&#039;s to be expected!

There will be some effect on the SL economy as a result of Real Life recession, but there will also be opportunities for folks with spare cash (and balls) to take a few risks and snag up bargains, such as virtual land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the virtual world, about <a href="http://www.slentre.com/second-life-business-only-10-of-real-life-businesses-succeed-in-second-life/" rel="nofollow">90% of businesses fail</a> as a matter of course. Remember, many of the people who join Second Life (or other virtual worlds) are not business people but want to &#8220;give it a try&#8221; and starting one in SL is pretty low cost. So it is unsurprising that you hear about &#8220;businesses closing in droves&#8221; because that&#8217;s to be expected!</p>
<p>There will be some effect on the SL economy as a result of Real Life recession, but there will also be opportunities for folks with spare cash (and balls) to take a few risks and snag up bargains, such as virtual land.</p>
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		<title>By: dshiao</title>
		<link>http://secondlifeshrink.com/2008/12/26/a-hard-rains-a-gonna-fall/#comment-301</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m closer to virtual tradeshows than Second Life.  Hopefully, my rosy forecast re: SL come true.  On the virtual tradeshow front, I&#039;m very confident with regard to growth and upside - you can take that to the &quot;bank&quot; ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m closer to virtual tradeshows than Second Life.  Hopefully, my rosy forecast re: SL come true.  On the virtual tradeshow front, I&#8217;m very confident with regard to growth and upside &#8211; you can take that to the &#8220;bank&#8221; <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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